About See the Tathagata and the Buddha Nature

(The Bodhisattva) Lion's Roar said: "Oh, World Honored One! What means when we say that we see the Tathagata and the Buddha Nature about which you, the Buddha, speak? Oh, World Honored One! The Tathagata has no carnal visage. He is not tall, nor short, neither white or black. There is no sense in talking about it. He is not in the three worlds. He is not a created existence. He is not one who can be seen through the eyes. How can one see him? The situation is the same with the Buddha Nature."

The Buddha said: "Oh, good man! There are two kinds of Buddha-Body. One is eternal, and the other is impermanent. The latter is manifested through expediency for saving beings. This is to see through the eyes. The Eternal refers to the emancipated body of the Tathagata-World-Honored One! It's called one seen by the eyes. It is also one seen by hearing. The Buddha Nature, also, has two kinds, namely: 1) visible, and 2) invisible. The visible is the case of the Bodhisattvas of the tenth abode and of all Buddhas, World Honored One; the impossible to be seen, (invisible), refers to the case of beings. Seeing with the eye refers to the Buddha Nature of beings seen by Bodhisattvas of the tenth abode and all Buddhas-Tathagata. Seeing by hearing refers to all beings, who hear that the Bodhisattva of the ninth abode has the Buddha Nature.”

Nirvana Sutra, Chapter 34, on Bodhisattva Lion's Roar 2.

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